August 19, 2003

Having kids

Someone recently posted a question about having kids to one of the Heathen lists I'm on, wondering if it was considered "unHeathen" to choose not to have children. It's led to some interesting debate. Heathens, being about as agreeable as any other group of religious people, don't have only one view on much of anything - including, it seems, childbearing. There's no question that family ties - both to your ancestors and to your descendants - are a major theme in much of the lore that we have to guide us, as well as what's been found in many archaeological digs at Nordic and Viking sites, but there's a lot more to Heathenism than just that.

As with most tribal societies, the need to have children was very strong, especially in a land where harsh and long winters could easily kill. Children are, without a doubt, vital to the survival of the tribe as a whole. Even now, that is one of the main reasons cited by those who feel that someone who refuses to have children is not fulfilling his or her religious or spiritual duty. There are several different branches of Heathen faith (all based on the ancient Norse/Viking lore and ways, but which, like the different Christian denominations, vary in the details), but even taken all together, Heathenism as a whole isn't a huge religion at this point. And, since we don't proselytize in order to gain new converts (if someone is interested in learning more, we'll gladly talk to them about it - but it's rare you'll find someone trying to tell you to accept Odin if you want to go to Valhalla or that Heathenism is the One True Way™,) Heathens having children and raising them in the faith is one of the best ways for Heathenism to continue through the next generations.

There are, however, a couple of realities that I think people - even religious people - need to keep in mind when it comes to deciding how important it is for other people to have children. First and foremost is that Jord (the Norse Goddess who embodies the Earth) doesn't have an infinite capacity for humans. Overpopulation is a genuine concern, and its known that where people are plentiful and resources are scarce, violence is a likely result. While Jord periodically takes matters into her own hands and will bring about famine, earthquakes, fires, storms and other natural disasters to thin out the population, I firmly believe that humans need to help out by not necessarily reproducing quite so frequently.

Secondly, it is very clear that there are some people who are well-suited for parenthood, and some who quite simply aren't. Sadly, because religions often put a heavy focus on the idea that having children is a religious obligation, and because even when religion doesn't lay the "obligation" guilt-trip on someone, society often will, we end up with a lot of people who probably would choose not to have children if they thought that was an actual choice open to them.

Now, granted, we're not going to solve the overpopulation problem by making it easier for people to voluntarily opt-out of the gene pool, but it is a good place to start, and it doesn't require government involvement, unfair or inequitable restrictions or other draconian measures to enforce it. All it requires is for people to start understanding that having children is a personal decision, and one that only those who would be responsible for raising said children are qualified to make.

I can understand why different faiths want people to have kids - and why some even encourage people to have lots and lots of kids. It is a good way to help ensure the propagation of the faith. Most people stay in the faith they're raised with, and raise their own children the same way. I would think, however, that it would be in most religions' best interests to go for quality over quantity. Rather than focusing on raw numbers, it would be more logical to make sure that the kids who are born into the faith are ones who have every opportunity to become people who can contribute not only to society at large, but to the faith community as well. It's true that people from bad homes can, and often do, become very valuable members of society - but it seems that by allowing people who think that they have the potential to be abusive, neglectful or otherwise "bad" - as well as those who just don't want kids for whatever reason - to remain childless, you'll have more kids with a good chance for success - making for a stronger community overall.

Now, if, along with finding a way to change societal attitudes so that there is less pressure on people who wish to remain childless to go ahead and have kids anyway, we could also find a way to effectively help people who have kids without having first given any serious thought to whether they should or not, we might actually start making some good headway on the population issue. I'm not saying we don't need kids. Obviously, as a species, and within our faith communities, we do. There's no question about that. But the goal shouldn't be to have as many kids as possible and spend time, money and other resources trying to fix the problems caused by avoidable bad parenting, but rather on making sure that every child that is born is one that is loved and wanted, and will be raised by parents (either their biological ones or an adoptive family) who are willing to undertake the task.

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Comments

I have to admit, I'm probably guilty of what might appear to be "pressuring" childless people on the topic. Not deliberately: if people don't want children, there's a good reason, whatever it is, and that's enough. I delayed for more than a decade having any for my own good reasons - I remember what the pressure felt like.

But I've had friends who would have been the best parents in the world who chose not to have children. It hurts a bit to see these fabulous people not being replicated and yet seeing any moron with reproductive capabilities exercise them and then abuse/neglect their progeny. It's just not the best thing for humanity.

I hope saying something like that doesn't come across as pressure, but there it is.

I'd probably open my big mouth and say something like that if you and I spoke together, Kriselda. Anyone as smart and articulate, as kind to animals as you, should be replicated. But no pressure, really. Ever.

Posted by: Rayne at August 19, 2003 09:40 AM

Well said, Kriselda. I agree with you completely. Thanks for bringing up this subject.

Rayne - One thing you have to keep in mind while thinking that someone might make a great parent is that you don't know every side to someone, and they may have some secret (or even not so secret) reason for not wanting to have children. I think that's what ticks those of us who have decided not to have children off the most - that other people assume that they know what's best for us, because they think that we'd make great parents, but we know otherwise. It's the assumption that everyone wants to have kids that's annoying.

Posted by: kel at August 19, 2003 01:04 PM

BTW - I hate that word, "childless." It makes it seem like there's something wrong with not having a child. I mean, I don't go around calling parents "lifeless." Isn't there some better way to refer to people who don't have/want kids? "Free-willed," perhaps?

Posted by: kel at August 19, 2003 01:08 PM

Yeah, Kel, I know exactly what you mean -- that was me for the decade I put it off. Between a cancer scare and bad timing, it was not to be. But that still doesn't keep me from feeling wistful for friends I love who won't be parents for whatever the reason (choice in one case, cancer in another, ovarian failure in yet another case).

Posted by: Rayne at August 19, 2003 01:12 PM

I guess it is hard when it's something like cancer that prevents people from becoming parents - I just hate it when people tell me, "Oh, but you'd make such a good mother!" Those people don't know why I've made my decision.

I just came across an interesting article over at AlterNet re: men's contraception. An interesting read. Not quite what we're talking about, but interesting nonetheless.

Posted by: kel at August 19, 2003 01:40 PM

Rayne - when it become pressure kind of (for me at least) depends on who you are. If you're my mom, saying something like that more than 2 or 3 times in my lifetime would probably feel like pressure (though she's been fantastic about not doing that!), where as from a friend, I could proably hear it, oh, 10 times over a couple of years before I started wanting to tell someone to "back off". :) Thank you for the kind words, though - I do appreciate that!

Kel - I know what you mean about "childless" - the main alternative I've heard has been "childfree", but I'm not really comfortable with it. Maybe it's too many years of hearing about things being fat-free, sugar-free, disease-free, colour-free, fragrance-free, blah, blah, blah, but I've come to associate whatever the thing is that we're "free" of as being something negative or bad, and while I don't care for kids much, I certainly don't think they're necessarily bad. The only other one I've ever really heard used at all is "non-childed", which I have a hard time saying with a straight face, so I sort of end up in the "childless" category. :/

Posted by: kriselda jarnsaxa at August 19, 2003 07:34 PM

Perhaps part of the problem is based in language; we say childless, child-free, sans enfant. But the focus shouldn't be on acquiring a child as if one were to acquire a new house or an SUV.

Our society doesn't place much value on the genuine commitment it takes to be a good parent -- it's at least a calling, not any less than a calling to a profession. We are guilty of not asking whether folks have been called to be parents or not, whether they are parental or non-parental. Too much emphasis on the child and not enough on parent.

It could be that spawning is too damned easy, like falling off a log. If we treated the matter differently, gave it more respect as a vocation, we might not get so many spawners and more good parents. And as a society we might have more respect for those who do not choose this vocation. (Really, who gives anyone crap about not choosing one vocation for another?)

Posted by: Rayne at August 20, 2003 08:31 AM